Monday, February 27, 2012

"The Eye is the Lamp of the Body"....what did that mean?

Discovering  Patterns in Chapter and Verse Designations

It has taken me more than ten years and 10,000 hours of Bible study to get to the point I'm at today in my understanding of Biblical numerics. This discovery did not occur to me as some overnight vision, but instead occurred a tiny step at a time starting back in 1999. To this day I'm not absolutely sure what I saw 10+ years ago that made me take notice of numbers, but this is one of the first curiosities that caught my imagination...

Back in 1999, in an attempt to understand the gospels better, I began a deep and somewhat slow study of them. I would take and read a chapter many times over a 2-3 week period and would not move on to the next chapter before I felt I sufficiently understood as much as I was able from the current one. I probably read and went through each chapter 50 times thinking about every verse and even every word in them. I spent around 30-40 hours on each chapter. In this process, I one day ran across a curious discovery...

"The Eye is the Lamp of the Body"....what did that mean?
I've always questioned my understanding of the eye being the Lamp of the Body. It was a verse I had read and had preached to me many times, but I was never quite sure I understood it well enough to teach it to others. In my study of Luke 12, I noticed (or God showed me) the relationship between the verses of Luke 11:33-37 and 12:33-37. Five verses that lined up on the same verse numbers in chapters next to each other. Each of these five verses helped me understand the counterpart verse in the other chapter. In my mind they match up perfectly and when examining them together, they illuminate each other. At first I had simply noticed the similarity in the text and did not notice their verse numbers--but then I went to take notes about what I observed and I was very surprised to see they shared the same verse numbers.  Of course, this could have been coincidence, but over a period of years, it turned out to be one of hundreds of little clues that finally led me to want to study Biblical numbers more.

Notice the contrast in these verses -- it is not we that invites Jesus to recline at our table, but Jesus will have us recline at his table...
Luke 11:37 Now when He had spoken, a Pharisee asked Him to have lunch with him; and He went in, and reclined at the table.

Luke 12:37 "Blessed are those slaves whom the master will find on the alert when he comes; truly I say to you, that he will gird himself to serve, and have them recline at the table, and will come up and wait on them.
Verses in Luke 12 directly correspond and help explain corresponding verses in Luke 11. When you study each set in context of one another you can see the picture of Jesus being the Lamp of the Body and we are to have his lamp inside us (Holy Spirit?) when he comes for us. The strongest clues for these sets of verses intentionally lining up is verse 37 and 38.  First, 37 contrasts how the Pharisees asked Jesus to recline vs how Jesus will come ask us to recline. Then in 38, the Pharisees were surprised when Jesus did not wash to be ready for the meal vs how when Jesus comes those who are ready will not be surprised.

The following table compares these two sets of verses side by side...

Luke 11:33 No one lights a lamp and puts it in a place where it will be hidden, or under a bowl. Instead he puts it on a stand, so that those who come in may see the light. 


May also correspond to Luke 12:33, but only shown here as a help to put it all in context.
Luke 11:34 Your eye is the lamp of your body. When your eyes are good, your whole body is also full of light. But when they are bad, your body is also full of darkness. Luke 12:34 For where your treasure is, there your heart will be also(This helps explain what the lamp of the body is. It’s our treasure, whatever we make it to be. It should be God’s truth and  Jesus) 

Luke 11:35 See to it, then, that the light within you is not darkness. (be actively seeking the darkness in your heart and doing the things necessary to grow and remove the darkness.) Luke 12:35 "Be dressed and ready for service and keep your lamps burning, “ (both verses give orders to continue to work to keep God’s truth and light in our lives. This is deep, heart truth, not just reading his word, but to obey it.)

Luke 11:36 Therefore, if your whole body is full of light, and no part of it dark, it will be completely lighted, as when the light of a lamp shines on you. (difficult to comprehend the meaning until you read Luke 12:36 – Jesus comes to shine on us--Amazing!)

Luke 12:36 Like men waiting for their master to return from a wedding banquet, so that when he comes and knocks, they can immediately open the door for him.  (his light comes and shines on us, that is, He does) 
Luke 11:37 When Jesus has finished speaking , a Pharisee invited him to eat with him; so he went in and reclined at the table.  (Jesus finished speaking – All the talk was done, time for Jesus to come…, Pharisee was doing the inviting to Recline – Wrong!  The word  “reclining” is not a coincidence between these two parts of scripture. )

Luke 12:37 It will be good for those servants whose master finds them watching when he comes. I tell you the truth, he will dress himself to serve, will have them recline at the table and will come wait on them. (Jesus invites us to recline at the table. We are not the ones to do the inviting of him to come to us. We accept his invitation). 
11:38 But the Pharisee, noticing that Jesus did not wash before the meal was surprised. (The Pharisee who was judging Jesus’ acceptability to him, will be surprised). Luke 12:38 It will be good for those servants whose master finds them ready, even if he comes in the second or third watch of the night. (will be good, salvation…they will not be surprised)

The discovery of The Bible's Redemption Pattern and Numeric map involved literally 1000's of small observations that all continually pointed to the existence of patterns between numbers and text. None of the examples by themselves could be considered proof, but the preponderance of so many of them demanded only one conclusion -- God had inspired book, chapter and verse numbers and lined up the text of scripture such that they may illuminate each other. Only a supernatural God could have developed the Bible with this incomprehendible perfection

Saturday, February 25, 2012

The Most Compelling Evidence for a Supernatural Bible - 1000 verse sections


(Updated January 2015)
A Definite Pattern of 1000 Verse Bible Sections - 31 in all
This page under construction (updated Jan 5, 2015)

Also see -- http://amazingword.blogspot.com/2012/02/most-compelling-evidence-for.html

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BOTTOM LINE: This post explains hard evidence that God has broken up the Bible in to 31 sections of 1000 verses each (31,102 verses - 102 left after the first 31,000). You can count the verses in any King James or similarly structured Bible. At the end of every 1000 verse section is what I call a transitional verse that denotes the end of one section of scripture and the beginning of another. For example, the 4000th Bible verse is Numbers 10:11 where the Cloud moves signaling the exact beginning of Israel's wilderness wandering.  In the 2000th verse Exodus 17:16 Amalek is defeated. In the 9,000th verse at 1Kings 8:14, the Work of building the temple is complete -- God just then appears in a cloud and enters the temple…all the people are blessed--1Kin 8:14.  In the 24,000th verse at Matthew 24:42, Jesus declares for us to be on the alert for "The Day of the Lord" (24 hours?). All the other 1000 verse locations have amazing similar transition verses.
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For all these 31 sections to line up on obviously special transitional section marking verses requires a supernatural author. I think this evidence for the Bible's perfection was left by God for us to discover in these last days where Christianity is coming under greater attack. Today, even many believers have serious doubts about how accurate the Bible is...this evidence should help restore Christian's faith in God's Word and the messages and prophecies it contain.
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Why is this important: Many reasons including:
  • Demonstrates the Bible is the Word of God
  • Shows another set of "God intended" divisions of scripture.
  • Demonstrates the Old Testament and New Testament go perfectly together (see Matthew 24:42, the 24,000th Bible verse below.
  • Helps show the symbolism of numbers 1-31
  • Helps study the Bible in God defined sections
  • Is a type of encryption validation that shows nothing has been added or removed from the Bible.
  • ....and many more reasons
Read further to be blessed by this miracle of God's Word...

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There are 31,102 verses in the Bible...Would you believe these 31,102 verses have very specific transitions in topics and events at precisely every 1000 verse boundary? More incredibly, this pattern is maintained perfectly across the Old and New Testaments. For example, the "23,000th" verse is Zech 8:"23" "Thus says the LORD of hosts, 'In those days ten men from all the nations will grasp the garment of a Jew, saying, "Let us go with you, for we have heard that God is with you.'". This 23,000 transition verse and all verses up until the 23,999th verse speak of God coming to be with his people and how he will restore them. This 1000 verse set begins in the Old Testament and and ends in the 24 chapter of Matthew where Jesus starts explaining about the coming "Day of the LORD". These 1000 verse sets appear to be absolute truth the Bible was planned from the beginning as one complete that had two parts..Old Testament and New Testament.
About the theme for #23... The 23,000th verse at Zech 8:23 says "God is with you" -- This is consistent with the theme found associated with #23 throughout the Bible which speaks of the Lord being in our midst. A few examples of this number/theme relationship can be found in: Jer 23:23 "Am I a God who is near," declares the LORD, "And not a God far off?; Matt 1:23 ..THEY SHALL CALL HIS NAME IMMANUEL," which translated means, "GOD WITH US."; in Matt 18:20 "For where two or three have gathered together in My name, I am there in their midst."; and in the 23rd Psalm "v4 Even though I walk through the valley of the shadow of death, I fear no evil, for You are with me...
To show the concept of transition verses note the 24,000th verse of the Bible is Matthew 24:42. This verse about "The Day of the LORD" (24 hours) immediately follows a rapture like event. It separates the last event before the Day of the Lord which appears to be a catching up of his people...

23,998th verse - Matt 24:40 "..there will be two men in the field; one will be taken and one will be left.23,999th verse - Matt 24:41 "Two women grinding at the mill; one will be taken and one will be left.
(note transition here from pre catching up to post catching up text)
24,000 verse - Matt 24:42 "Therefore be on the alert, for you do not know which "DAY" your Lord is coming.

This 24,000th verse is the transition verse from one topic to another. Previous to this verse the text speaks about Jesus life through how he speaks about the day he will return to judge - The Day of the Lord. After this verse (the 24001st through the 25,000th verse) begins to speak of the death, resurrection and appearances of Jesus again on earth.

When you examine any one of these cross Bible 1000 verse section "transition verses" they may seem a likely coincidence, but when you examine the consistency of all these amazing topic transitions across every 1000 verse, you will know the Bible is the actual supernatural words of God.

31 1000 multiple Transitional verses


The following examples of the 31 verses in the Bible whose cross Bible verse numbers fall on one thousand verse boundaries. I call these transitional verses where one season or series of events is ending and another is about to begin. They in effect divide the Bible into 31 sections and are one of the many DNA like numbers guiding interpretation. Note how each of these verses point to significant and transitional events.

1000th— #1 is about being set apart -- Here, Israel is no longer set apart for God - Genesis 34:19 is the precise verse that speaks of how Israel stopped being a set apart nation and began to unrighteously mix with other peoplesGen 34:19 The young man did not delay to do the thing, because he was delighted with Jacob's daughter… TRANSITION: He was agreeing to the Jews plan for them to live together.

2000th –The appointed redeemer -- The defeat of Amalek and the end of the beginning of the Bible in this precise verse --  but the Lord says this battle will go on again and again through generations—Joshua Defeats Amalek but The Lord says -- Ex 17:16 …the LORD will have war against Amalek from generation to generation. …  ...

3000th  God's Holiness--God begins to teach Israel about the clean and unclean -- Lev 11:2 "…These are the creatures which you may eat…"

4000th – (MOST amazing 1000th verse transition example) Wilderness Wandering and testing begins-the cloud moves for the very first timeNum 10:11 …the second year, in the second month, on the twentieth of the month, the cloud was lifted from over the tabernacle. TRANSITION: In this precise 4000th verse, Israel's wilderness wandering actually begins.

5000th –Consequences—Five is about statutes and covenants, blessings and curses—consequences for sin--Moses pleads to enter the land but is denied   Deu 3:24-25 ''Let me, I pray, cross over and see the fair land that is beyond the Jordan…"

6000th – (amazing 1000th verse transition example) Sin exposed and removed-- #6 is about sin and turning from sin --Israel's sin exposed and articles kept under the ban are laid out before God--Josh 7:23 They took them from inside the tent…and they poured them out before the LORD. …

7000th—Preparing for Godliness--5 men from Dan are sent to spy out the land and ask a Levite priest (Jesus) seek to enterJudg 18:6 The priest said to them, "Go in peace; your way in which you are going has the LORD'S approval."

8000th—The Godly are blessed--David and his men return from Battle to welcome those too tired to fight to join them--1Sam 30:21  David came to the two hundred men who were too exhausted to follow…they went out to meet David…then David approached the people and greeted them. …

9000th – (MOST amazing 1000th verse transition example) Work of building the temple is complete -- God appears in a cloud enters it…all the people are blessed--1Kin 8:14 Then the king faced about and blessed all the assembly of Israel…

10000th (amazing 1000th verse transition example) The lord declares judgment on Israel and the exile begins--2Kin 17:16 They forsook all the commandments of the LORD their God and made for themselves molten images...and served Baal...v18 So the LORD was very angry with Israel and removed them from His sight... …

11000th  David dies, Solomon made king and charged with building the temple--1Chr 23:16 (middle of a list of names of Levites being counted)

12000th – (amazing 1000th verse transition example) Judment-Judah Led Away Captive; and the Babylonian Exile--2Chr 36:6 Nebuchadnezzar …bound him with bronze chains to take him to Babylon. …

13000th -- #13 spiritual battle/confusion ...Job 6:21 "Indeed, you have now become such, You see a terror and are afraid.Notice that you can see 1st Corinthians as the "love is not" chapter of the Bible - clearing up confusion about what love is.

14000th -- #14 Jesus the King, Passover.. Psa 7:4 If I have rewarded evil to my friend, Or have plundered him who without cause was my adversary,

15000th -- #15 related to resurrection -- Psa 71:23 My lips will shout for joy when I sing praises to You; And my soul, which You have redeemed.

16000th -- #16 re the Godly -- Psa 119:101 I have restrained my feet from every evil way, That I may keep Your word.

17000th -- (flood/blood Lifted Up/Thrown Down) Prov 21:15 The exercise of justice is joy for the righteous, But is terror to the workers of iniquity.Number 17 is related to resurrection, lifting up, saving and also the opposite meaning which is justice and punishment for the unsaved. Joseph at age 17 was "resurrected". Jesus risen from the grave on the 17th. The flood began on the 17th and the ark rested on the 17th of the month; The Bible's 171st verse is Genesis "7:11" on the seventeenth day of the month..the fountains..burst open..the floodgates of the sky were opened; #17 and water/blood - Again associated with judgment by water, in Exodus "7:17" I will strike the water that is in the Nile with the staff that is in my hand, and it will be turned to blood; Acts 17 is "Resurrection" chapter; The term "The Mystery" occurs 17 times in the Bible; Rev 17:7 "I will tell the mystery of the woman w/seven heads and ten horns (17?)"; #17 is a #BLOOD number; The 107th chapter; Lev 17:11 the life of flesh is in the blood..the blood..of the life makes atonement; #17="Flood verses" Psa 77:17/1171st ver Clouds poured out water_ thunder_lightning; #17="Flood ver" 17171th ver/770th of Prov-27:1 you don't know what tomorrow brings. 17="Flood ver" 1707th ver--174th of Exodus--"7:21" Nile_Fish died, water was foul; #17="Flood ver" 1717th ver -- Exodus 8:6 Aaron stretched out hands over "waters".... and many more examples.  Watch the Bible's 17:17 verses.

18000th –#18 related to #666 & Sin...Announcing the Lord's return and Judgment to come--Isa 18:1-2 To a people feared far and wide, A powerful and oppressive nation Whose land the rivers divide.

19000th -- #19 relating to need for a redeemer? Jer 2:34 "Also on your skirts is found The lifeblood of the innocent poor; You did not find them breaking in. But in spite of all these things,

20000th -- Anticipation of Jesus return. Jesus the Savior of the World is coming -- Jer 43:2 Azariah the son of Hoshaiah, and Johanan the son of Kareah, and all the arrogant men said to Jeremiah, "You are telling a lie! The LORD our God has not sent you to say, 'You are not to enter Egypt to reside there';

21000th—God's wrath on the wicked--(#20 waiting for the promised messiah) Eze 22:23-31 And the word of the LORD came to me, saying,...'You are a land that is not cleansed or rained on in the day of indignation.... "I searched for a man among them who would build up the wall and stand in the gap before Me for the land, so that I would not destroy it; but I found no one. v31 "Thus I have poured out My indignation on them; I have consumed them with the fire of My wrath; their way I have brought upon their heads... …

22000th— (amazing 1000th verse transition example) A curse on the nation of Israel (911?)--(#22 Jesus the Lamb of God) Dan 9:11 "all Israel has transgressed Your law and turned aside, not obeying Your voice; so the curse has been poured out on us…for we have sinned against Him.

23000th— (amazing 1000th verse transition example) (#23 God with us,  where two or three are gathered) Before the Day of the Lord people from all nations seek protection with the Jews--Zech 8:23 Ten men from all nations seek to go with the Jews for God was with them

24000th— (MOST amazing 1000th verse transition example) (#24 the "DAY" of the LORD") - Matt 24:42 Believers taken up and a warning of the coming Day of the Lord --Matt 24:40 "…two men in the field; one will be taken and one will be left. …Two women will be grinding at the mill; one will be taken and one will be left….(24,000th) v42 "Therefore be on the alert, for you do not know which day your Lord is coming. …(see also the 31,000th verse -- Rapture, catching up?)

25000th— (amazing 1000th verse transition example) (#25 appearances of Jesus on earth - IE Christmas) The firstborn male baby Jesus presented at the temple--Luke 2:26 And it had been revealed to him by the Holy Spirit that he would not see death before he had seen the Lord's Christ.

26000th –(#26 God?) Disciples realize for the first time Jesus has risen!--Luke 24:8 And they remembered His words,

27000th—The Disciples begin to preach and heal the Gospel message (witness-27=72)--Act 3:3 When he saw Peter and John about to go into the temple, he began asking to receive alms. … 

28000th—(#28 Jesus the redeemer) Jews warned all are guilty under sin--Rom 3:8…Their condemnation is just…. v9… both Jews and Greeks are all under sin; v10…"THERE IS NONE RIGHTEOUS, NOT EVEN ONE;

29000—(#29 related t 99/999 waiting for Jesus return) Paul will continue to preach the truth and battle those who keep people from God--2Cor 11:10 As the truth of Christ is in me, this boasting of mine will not be stopped…

30000th –Jews are called to consider Jesus—Heb 3:3-4 For He has been counted worthy…the builder of the house has more honor than the house. (30,000th) v4 For every house is built by someone, but the builder of all things is God.

31000th – (amazing 1000th verse transition example) The faithful in Israel were just called out and now judgment is about to begin (like the 24,000th verse) -- Rev 18:4 I heard another voice from heaven, saying, "Come out of her, my people, so that you will not participate in her sins and receive of her plagues;  (31,000th) Rev 18:6 "Pay her back even as she has paid…
 

Tuesday, February 14, 2012

John 21:7 -- Why did Peter throw himself into the water..excited to see Jesus?


“… So when Simon Peter heard that it was the Lord, he put his outer garment on (for he was stripped for work), and threw himself into the sea.….” John 21:7

In the 21st chapter of the book of John in the New Testament we find an account of how Jesus secretly manifested himself to his disciples on a beach after his resurrection. John 21 says that all night Peter and the disciples were out fishing in a boat, but they did not catch any fish. As the sun came up, an unknown man (Jesus) stood on the shore commenting that they had caught no fish. This man then instructed them to put the net down on the right side of the boat and as a result they caught so many fish they could not lift the net into the boat.

After this obvious miracle occurred, the disciple in the boat with Peter exclaimed "It is the Lord" recognizing this man on the beach as the risen Jesus. Upon hearing this, Peter immediately got up and dressed himself (because he was naked) and "threw" himself into the ocean.

Every explanation of this account I can find says Peter was so excited to go see the Lord that he didn't wait for the boat to be taken to shore. Instead, he threw himself in the water to quickly swim to see Jesus. This explanation never made good sense to me and it bothered me that the text said Peter "threw" himself in the water. For many years I felt it was taking a leap of interpretation to read into the text why Peter threw himself in the water. My experience was (when discussing scripture with others) when I assumed too much about what the text said,  I often found myself in the uncomfortable position of trying to explain how I could know what the text did not specifically spell out.

One day, when encountering this text again in one of my personal Bible study times I saw it in a different light. The previous evening I had been in a study of Genesis chapter 3 where Adam and Eve sinned by eating the forbidden fruit. When God came by in the garden, they knew their guilt of sin and covered themselves (dressed) and hid from God due to their shame. When studying John 21 the next day I realized this account of Peter dressing himself and then throwing himself in the water was very much like Adam in Eve in the Garden.

As I studied this text more I realized Peter had just previously denied Jesus three times before his crucifixion and now Jesus had shown up right before him. It seems that out of his guilt and shame Peter covered his nakedness and tried to hide so Jesus would not see him.

I was very excited to see this aspect of the text and later tried to share it with others. Everyone I explained the possibility to thought it was interesting but could not possibly be a valid explanation. They would quickly change the subject at the unpleasant thought of discussing such crazy thoughts about this passage.

Wanting to help prove to myself that my new interpretation was either true or not, I thought that I might look at the pattern of themes in the Bible's 21:7 verses and see if they would help clarify what the verse at John 21:7 was really saying. I was astonished to find very clearly that the preponderance of 21:7 verses spoke of sin, not excitement or good. Even though I still don't find anyone who quite accepts my explanation today, I am basically confident that Peter was hiding from his shame and not eager to see Jesus.

This is one of my best examples of how the patterns reflected in Biblical numbering can help guide our interpretation of scripture. It shows another way the Bible helps interpret itself. Following is an explanation of how the patterns of like referenced verses can help us discern scripture better.

Like-referenced Verses

There are 4,532 different combinations of chapter- and verse-number references, which I refer to as “like-referenced-verse sets.” These are verses in different books that have the same chapter and verse number, such as the 28:14 verse set, in which there are, coincidentally, fourteen different verses. Due to the predictability of numbers with their themes, we can examine sets of like-referenced verses to get an understanding of the common theme that runs through them. This is not to imply that every verse in the set has the same theme, but every verse in the set does have themes relating somehow to the verse reference number, and by examining all of those in the set we can observe themes running through them. One of the most helpful examples of where these like-referenced verse sets have guided me is in examining John 21:7, where Peter throws himself into the water when he sees Jesus on the shore: “… So when Simon Peter heard that it was the Lord, he put his outer garment on (for he was stripped for work), and threw himself into the sea.….”
            Every commentary I find seems to believe Peter was in such a hurry to see Jesus that he jumped into the water to swim to the Lord. But that’s not what the verse says. It says he threw himself into the water. When other people did not understand how I questioned the common interpretation I decided to look at like-referenced verses to see if there were clues to helping understand it. I was amazed as I began to see the strong evidence for the theme of 21:7 verses relating to the shame of sin.

Examples of Bible's 21:7 verses showing they follow a pattern of sinfulness

Num 21:7 So the people came to Moses and said, "We have sinned, because we have spoken against the LORD…
Job 21:7 "Why do the wicked still live, Continue on, also become very powerful?
1Chr 21:7 God was displeased with this thing, so He struck Israel.
Prov 21:7 The violence of the wicked will drag them away, Because they refuse to act with justice.
Deu 21:7 and they shall answer and say, 'Our hands did not shed this blood, nor did our eyes see it.
Lev 21:7 'They shall not take a woman who is profaned by harlotry, nor shall they take a woman divorced from her husband…
2Kin 21:7 Then he set the carved image of Asherah that he had made in the house (temple).
Eze 21:7 "..'Why do you groan?' you shall say, 'Because of the news that is coming; and every heart will melt, all hands will be feeble"
 
And in John 21:7 notice how the sin theme surfaces in the text...
 when Simon Peter heard that it was the Lord, he put his outer garment (fig leaf) on and threw himself into the sea (tried to hide from the Lord)" (John 21:7 ).   
            The verses in this 21:7 set helped me confirm that Peter didn’t throw himself into the water because he was eager to see Jesus, but because he had just denied Jesus three times, and upon seeing Him, much like Adam and Eve in the garden, he put on a fig leaf (his outer garmet) “threw himself” into the water to hide from the Lord. This gives amazing meaning we can relate to regarding Peter’s action as we all can understand such shame and knowing Peter was afraid to see Jesus gives new understanding to the significance of the following passages where Jesus restores him—John 21:15 “...Jesus said to Simon Peter, "Simon, son of John, do you love Me...”. 

Analyzing verse sets does not interpret verses for you, but it gives valuable insight to better understand the messages in the Bible. When you need more information to help understand scripture, examine like referenced verses for themes that will guide you.

Thursday, February 09, 2012

The number 17 -- resurrection, casting down, blood, flood, consecration...

Following is a list of recent Twitter Tweets I sent to help show the symbolism of the Bible's number 17. Some of the first Bible evidences for this DNA like numbering is found in the account of the flood. The rains of the great flood began on the 17th of the month representing both lifing up/saving of the faithful and the destruction of the wicked. The ark also rested on the 17th of the month reflecting the end of the earth cleansing event. Having this very clear example helps to understand other places in the Bible where number seventeen is found.


You will also find this number strongly related to both water and blood throughout the Bible. You can decide for yourself the best definition of #17 - I see it strongly related to things of being saved/lifted up or resurrection. Blood and water/floods relate to cleansing and saving as well. It is often found also relating to those who are going to be lifted up/cast down.

Don't assume my definition for #17 is accurate, but use this information to start forming your own opinion about the symbolism of #17. To understand this number better, watch verse seventeens as well as chapter seventeens in your study. Seventeen is one of the easiest numbers to observe the patterns between the Bible's numbers and text. Enjoy the journey of learning and let God draw you nearer to him as you discover the amazing nature of this number.
(pardon the cryptic nature of the tweets caused by trying to communicate a thought in 140 characters or less) 

#17 water/blood nbr 137th #Bible chapter & 717th ver of Num (20:10) rebels_shall we bring forth water for you out of this rock? #apologetics

#17 is flood/blood/consecration nbr- Lev 23:27 "On exactly the tenth day of this seventh month (17) is the day of atonement.. #apologetics

#17 #Blood/#Water nbr; 107th chap; Lev 17:14 I said to sons of Israel, 'You are not to eat the blood..for the life of all flesh is its blood

#17 is a #BLOOD number; The 107th chapter; Lev 17:11 the life of flesh is in the blood..the blood..of the life makes atonement #apologetics

#17 water/blood nbr; #Bible's 1717th verse--Exo 8:6 Aaron stretched his hand over the water..frogs came up and covered the land #apologetics

#17=flood/blood/cleansing-Psa "107:17" Fools because of their rebelliousness/iniquities were afflicted 1777th ver of Psa; 15717th of #Bible

#17 is blood/flood number 170 ver of Exo; 1703rd of #Bible-Exo "7:17" I will strike WATER..with the staff in my hand/it will turn to BLOOD

#17 is flood/blood number; Gen 8:4 In the 7th month on the 17th of the month (717 again) the ark rested upon mountains of Ararat #prophecy

#17 is a flood nbr--the 177th verse of Genesis; Gen "7:17" the flood came on the earth for 40 days and the water rose and lifted up the ark

Beyond coincidence? Psa 77:17 Rain Storm-thunder-lightening-#17 is a flood nbr; ark rose/rested on
17th. This is 1171th ver of Psa #scripture